Moderate nat on two xbox one

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Bingham67
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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Think going have to assign static IP to both consoles how do you do this?
billion_fan
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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Bingham67 wrote:Think going have to assign static IP to both consoles how do you do this?
You can set this up on the xbox it self

eg Xbox 1
IP 192.168.1.200
Subnet - 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway - 192.168.1.254

Xbox 2
IP 192.168.1.201
Subnet - 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway - 192.168.1.254

Or you can use the router to do the job, log into the router click on 'Configuration >> LAN' in the centre of the page you will see a Static IP Lease List, click on the 'Add' button below it and then enter 'Host Label' eg xbox1, enter the MAC address of the xbox and IP address outside the DHCP range eg 192.168.1.200, and click on 'Apply' then restart your xbox to renew the IP address

Do the same for the second xbox this time entering the IP address 192.168.1.201
MrChips
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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Shouldn't uPnP handle this (two XBox Ones) without any other rule settings?

DMZ doesn't seem to work for me on this router - multiplayer games say I have a moderate NAT.
billion_fan
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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MrChips wrote:Shouldn't uPnP handle this (two XBox Ones) without any other rule settings?

DMZ doesn't seem to work for me on this router - multiplayer games say I have a moderate NAT.
I only have one xbox and UPNP seems to to work fine, with open NAT, (DMZ seems to work with other devices eg PC etc, it opens all ports)
MrChips
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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billion_fan wrote:
MrChips wrote:Shouldn't uPnP handle this (two XBox Ones) without any other rule settings?

DMZ doesn't seem to work for me on this router - multiplayer games say I have a moderate NAT.
I only have one xbox and UPNP seems to to work fine, with open NAT, (DMZ seems to work with other devices eg PC etc, it opens all ports)
I have an XB1 and PS4. The XB1 appears to be OK with open NAT using the uPnP - although this is what the XB1 network test reports. The PS4 has a moderate NAT independent of either using uPnP or DMZ - the PS4 (as does the XB1) has a fixed IP addresses. I can't seem to get the PS4 NAT open unless there are no other consoles on the network. Once other consoles are switched on the PS4 reverts from open NAT to moderate unless the router is power cycled and all other devices turned off.
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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MrChips wrote:
billion_fan wrote:
MrChips wrote:Shouldn't uPnP handle this (two XBox Ones) without any other rule settings?

DMZ doesn't seem to work for me on this router - multiplayer games say I have a moderate NAT.
I only have one xbox and UPNP seems to to work fine, with open NAT, (DMZ seems to work with other devices eg PC etc, it opens all ports)
I have an XB1 and PS4. The XB1 appears to be OK with open NAT using the uPnP - although this is what the XB1 network test reports. The PS4 has a moderate NAT independent of either using uPnP or DMZ - the PS4 (as does the XB1) has a fixed IP addresses. I can't seem to get the PS4 NAT open unless there are no other consoles on the network. Once other consoles are switched on the PS4 reverts from open NAT to moderate unless the router is power cycled and all other devices turned off.
Still checking with our engineers about the UPNP Virtual Server list, still holding the UPNP ports
MrChips
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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billion_fan wrote:
MrChips wrote:
billion_fan wrote:
I only have one xbox and UPNP seems to to work fine, with open NAT, (DMZ seems to work with other devices eg PC etc, it opens all ports)
I have an XB1 and PS4. The XB1 appears to be OK with open NAT using the uPnP - although this is what the XB1 network test reports. The PS4 has a moderate NAT independent of either using uPnP or DMZ - the PS4 (as does the XB1) has a fixed IP addresses. I can't seem to get the PS4 NAT open unless there are no other consoles on the network. Once other consoles are switched on the PS4 reverts from open NAT to moderate unless the router is power cycled and all other devices turned off.
Still checking with our engineers about the UPNP Virtual Server list, still holding the UPNP ports
Thanks. It does cause a bit of a headache, as I see in the other thread (Ports used by uPnP on the 8800NL aren't released?) others have experienced the same problem as me. In theory we shouldn't need to use DMZ as uPnP should handle the port forwarding for two XBox Ones (for example) - so they both have fully open NATs entirely achieved by uPnP.
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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MrChips wrote:
billion_fan wrote:
MrChips wrote:
I have an XB1 and PS4. The XB1 appears to be OK with open NAT using the uPnP - although this is what the XB1 network test reports. The PS4 has a moderate NAT independent of either using uPnP or DMZ - the PS4 (as does the XB1) has a fixed IP addresses. I can't seem to get the PS4 NAT open unless there are no other consoles on the network. Once other consoles are switched on the PS4 reverts from open NAT to moderate unless the router is power cycled and all other devices turned off.
Still checking with our engineers about the UPNP Virtual Server list, still holding the UPNP ports
Thanks. It does cause a bit of a headache, as I see in the other thread (Ports used by uPnP on the 8800NL aren't released?) others have experienced the same problem as me. In theory we shouldn't need to use DMZ as uPnP should handle the port forwarding for two XBox Ones (for example) - so they both have fully open NATs entirely achieved by uPnP.
With the two Xbox's they both show open NAT within the network settings, but within the game one xbox shows a Moderate, I have forwarded both threads to our engineers, hoping to get a reply soon :D
MrChips
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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billion_fan wrote:
MrChips wrote:
billion_fan wrote:
Still checking with our engineers about the UPNP Virtual Server list, still holding the UPNP ports
Thanks. It does cause a bit of a headache, as I see in the other thread (Ports used by uPnP on the 8800NL aren't released?) others have experienced the same problem as me. In theory we shouldn't need to use DMZ as uPnP should handle the port forwarding for two XBox Ones (for example) - so they both have fully open NATs entirely achieved by uPnP.
With the two Xbox's they both show open NAT within the network settings, but within the game one xbox shows a Moderate, I have forwarded both threads to our engineers, hoping to get a reply soon :D
Thank you. Much appreciated.
billion_fan
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Re: Moderate nat on two xbox one

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MrChips wrote:
billion_fan wrote:
MrChips wrote:
Thanks. It does cause a bit of a headache, as I see in the other thread (Ports used by uPnP on the 8800NL aren't released?) others have experienced the same problem as me. In theory we shouldn't need to use DMZ as uPnP should handle the port forwarding for two XBox Ones (for example) - so they both have fully open NATs entirely achieved by uPnP.
With the two Xbox's they both show open NAT within the network settings, but within the game one xbox shows a Moderate, I have forwarded both threads to our engineers, hoping to get a reply soon :D
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Also other routers seems to have issues also, so hoping our engineers can come up with something (other then a range of static WAN IP's)

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_support/xbo ... x?pi7962=1

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_support/xbo ... 74746.aspx
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