Billion UK Forum

GaZaai wrote:

Eddman wrote:Hi

yes it is a HH5 B with broadcom chip set. same as Billion but seems to get a better speed.
Pity as spent over 100 quid on Billion and get better speed on free router from BT.
Maybe one day Billion will fix the EPP problem (end user poor performance).
Who knows

Phillip

My homehub 5 is arriving today I really hope its a type B tho. Free of charge of course as my Type A went faulty After I plug it in ill post the stats here and see if there is a problem with the billion products.

No issues here, running 2.32e

Same here:

Well After 11 days no drops at 66mb and line not changed Stable and the same since day 1.went back to HH 5 and bang 70Mbs which will go back to 70 to 72mb
So think Stats speak for themselves. Pity as I always great results from my other Billions, they blew the socks off other routers.
Maybe when they get next Firmware upgrade it maybe better.

Product Name: HomeHub5
2. Serial number: +076
3. Firmware version: v0.07.03.0814-BT (Type B) Last updated [Unknown]
4. Board version: 01
5. VDSL uptime: 0 days, 00:03:19
6. Data Rate: 17289 / 70726
7. Maximum Data Rate: 17292 / 71582
8. Noise Margin: 6.2 / 6.3
9. Line Attenuation: 0.0 / 20.6
10. Signal Attenuation: 0.0 / 0.0

Just looking at all the stats and it would seem if your Attention is over 15 to 16db then speed falls off rapidly where as HH5 does not.
Is that not what Broadcom chips were famous for poorer quality lines. The Broadcom in the HH5 seems to cope better. So all maybe down to the firmware
being to conservative and just reducing speed to much to quickly.
Maybe need to get Billion to test out on Att over 20db and turn the wick up a bit!!

Phillip

Yes was about to say they guys have low attenuation, hence they have a much higher speed. Where as ours are quite high we need every last mb we can get.
And the replacement homehub 5 I got was a type A
I have ordered a Type B from eBay this time tho. Ill post the stats from it when I receive it. The Type A homehub is that bad it wont even connect as G.INP is enabled on my line. Its even running the latest firmware and is still incompatible haha

Unfortunately for me the Home Hub 5 Type B was unable to give me any more sync speed from my line, and in fact the Billion 8800nl gives me a better sync speed in my case anyway.

Billion 8800nl:
xDSL
Mode VDSL2
Traffic Type PTM
Status Up
Link Power State L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 6.3 6.6
Attenuation (dB) 19.9 0.0
Output Power (dBm) 12.7 7.6
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 66942 20740
Rate (Kbps) 66344 20000
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 243 237
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword) 1 1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame) 0 45
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword) 10 16
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans) 0.1171 0.3782
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol) 17351 5373
D (interleaver depth) 8 1
I (interleaver block size in bytes) 254 127
N (RS codeword size) 254 254
Delay (msec) 0 0
INP (DMT symbol) 49.00 0.00
OH Frames 0 0
OH Frame Errors 0 169
RS Words 2954081248 3606897
RS Correctable Errors 23021 1128
RS Uncorrectable Errors 0 0
HEC Errors 0 0
OCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
Total Cells 2487797573 0
Data Cells 77443565 0
Bit Errors 0 0
Total ES 0 143
Total SES 0 0
Total UAS 0 0

Home Hub 5 Tpye B:
1. Product Name: HomeHub5
2. Serial number:
3. Firmware version: v0.07.03.0814-BT (Type B) Last updated [Unknown]
4. Board version: 01
5. VDSL uptime: 0 days, 00:18:20
6. Data Rate: 19474 / 64191
7. Maximum Data Rate: 19474 / 65073
8. Noise Margin: 5.9 / 6.4
9. Line Attenuation: 0.0 / 19.6
10. Signal Attenuation: 0.0 / 0.0
11. Data sent/received: 3.9 MB / 113.0 MB
12. Broadband username: bthomehub@btbroadband.com
13. BT Wi-fi: Yes
14. 2.4GHz wireless network/SSID: Forrest
15. 2.4GHz wireless connections: Enabled (802.11 b/g/n (up to 300 Mb/s))
16. 2.4GHz wireless security: WPA2 Only (Recommended)
17. 2.4GHz wireless channel: 1
18. 5GHz wireless network/SSID: Forrest
19. 5GHz wireless connections: Enabled (802.11 a/n/ac (up to 1300 Mb/s))
20. 5GHz wireless security: WPA2 Only (Recommended)
21. 5GHz wireless channel: 36
22. Firewall: Default
23. MAC Address: 4c:09:d4:f4:81:9e
24. Software variant: -
25. Boot loader: 0.5.0-BT (Tue Jun 17 18:52:56 2014)