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Over the past few days I have noticed sluggish performance; I had a quick look at the logs, however I cannot claim to fully understand these things, I did notice a (high?) number of upstream Total ES (over 1000 is 5 days) so I reset the stats below are the results after ~36 hours. BT performed a line test and claim not to see the same errors, the engineer thought they should see the same on their end. Is this anything to worry about?

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 25501 Kbps, Downstream rate = 78030 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 77471 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.4 15.0
Attn(dB): 15.8 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.6 6.7

VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 243 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 42
R: 10 16
S: 0.1003 0.3781
L: 20261 5374
D: 8 1
I: 254 127
N: 254 254
Q: 8 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 63 0
TxQueue: 21 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 21 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 186 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 5.3333 0.0000
L: 48 0
D: 3 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0

Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 812933
OHFErr: 0 162
RS: 1164546280 2184288
RSCorr: 9532 568
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 8555331 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 102663969 0
RSCorr: 22 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 154691 0
rtx_c: 847 0
rtx_uc: 0 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 11 0
minEFTR: 77463 0
errFreeBits: 162395205 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 3293277506 0
Data Cells: 314497205 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 78
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
AS: 137444

Bearer 0
INP: 49.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 3.98
OR: 0.01 64.22
AgR: 77550.36 20063.54

Bearer 1
INP: 4.00 0.00
INPRein: 4.00 0.00
delay: 3 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 95.62 0.01
AgR: 95.62 0.01

Bitswap: 3269/3272 83/83

Total time = 1 days 14 hours 10 min 45 sec
FEC: 9532 568
CRC: 0 162
ES: 0 78
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 10 min 45 sec
FEC: 31 2
CRC: 0 1
ES: 0 1
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 16 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 14 hours 10 min 45 sec
FEC: 3854 249
CRC: 0 51
ES: 0 31
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 5678 319
CRC: 0 111
ES: 0 47
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 1 days 14 hours 10 min 44 sec
FEC: 9532 568
CRC: 0 162
ES: 0 78
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
>

Stat's after five days, any advice gratefully received, my service is due to be migrated this week and I am keen to determine if the upstream CRC and ES rate are suggestive of a line problem, or an issue with the router.

adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 25489 Kbps, Downstream rate = 78061 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 77471 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.4 15.0
Attn(dB): 15.8 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.6 6.7

VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 243 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 42
R: 10 16
S: 0.1003 0.3781
L: 20261 5374
D: 8 1
I: 254 127
N: 254 254
Q: 8 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 63 0
TxQueue: 21 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 21 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 186 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 5.3333 0.0000
L: 48 0
D: 3 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0

Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 1275989
OHFErr: 0 468
RS: 2643842632 3605310
RSCorr: 67353 1636
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 24334319 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 292011829 0
RSCorr: 69 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 156471 0
rtx_c: 2605 0
rtx_uc: 0 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 32 0
minEFTR: 77448 0
errFreeBits: 461908162 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 2398131692 0
Data Cells: 430343332 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 198
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
AS: 390940

Bearer 0
INP: 49.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 3.98
OR: 0.01 64.22
AgR: 77550.36 20063.54

Bearer 1
INP: 4.00 0.00
INPRein: 4.00 0.00
delay: 3 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 95.62 0.01
AgR: 95.62 0.01

Bitswap: 7732/7735 253/253

Total time = 4 days 12 hours 35 min 41 sec
FEC: 67353 1636
CRC: 0 468
ES: 0 198
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 5 min 41 sec
FEC: 20 2
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 10 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 12 hours 35 min 41 sec
FEC: 18514 179
CRC: 0 40
ES: 0 19
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 12177 319
CRC: 0 104
ES: 0 38
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 4 days 12 hours 35 min 40 sec
FEC: 67353 1636
CRC: 0 468
ES: 0 198
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
>

slostuk wrote:Stat's after five days, any advice gratefully received, my service is due to be migrated this week and I am keen to determine if the upstream CRC and ES rate are suggestive of a line problem, or an issue with the router.

adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 25489 Kbps, Downstream rate = 78061 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 77471 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.4 15.0
Attn(dB): 15.8 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 12.6 6.7

VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 243 237
M: 1 1
T: 0 42
R: 10 16
S: 0.1003 0.3781
L: 20261 5374
D: 8 1
I: 254 127
N: 254 254
Q: 8 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 63 0
TxQueue: 21 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 21 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 186 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 5.3333 0.0000
L: 48 0
D: 3 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0

Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 1275989
OHFErr: 0 468
RS: 2643842632 3605310
RSCorr: 67353 1636
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 24334319 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 292011829 0
RSCorr: 69 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 156471 0
rtx_c: 2605 0
rtx_uc: 0 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 32 0
minEFTR: 77448 0
errFreeBits: 461908162 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 2398131692 0
Data Cells: 430343332 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 0 198
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
AS: 390940

Bearer 0
INP: 49.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 3.98
OR: 0.01 64.22
AgR: 77550.36 20063.54

Bearer 1
INP: 4.00 0.00
INPRein: 4.00 0.00
delay: 3 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 95.62 0.01
AgR: 95.62 0.01

Bitswap: 7732/7735 253/253

Total time = 4 days 12 hours 35 min 41 sec
FEC: 67353 1636
CRC: 0 468
ES: 0 198
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 5 min 41 sec
FEC: 20 2
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 10 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Latest 1 day time = 12 hours 35 min 41 sec
FEC: 18514 179
CRC: 0 40
ES: 0 19
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 12177 319
CRC: 0 104
ES: 0 38
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Since Link time = 4 days 12 hours 35 min 40 sec
FEC: 67353 1636
CRC: 0 468
ES: 0 198
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
>

You seem to have a lot of FEC errors, it all depends if the ISP say this acceptable for your line or not, its strange that the ISP can't see these errors, maybe you ask them if this number of error is acceptable over a 5 day period (even if they can see the errors)