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Hi

Can anyone tell me how to see the router stats, Billion 7800N? The only page in the router menu WAN Stats shows no errors or line drops but looking at the system log there has been at least one connection down and up in the last 48 hours. I've searched around and see that you have to use telnet. I've enabled it from the Windows vista list of extra programmes and I can open it but that's as far as I can get.

Any help would be appreciated as my actual line speed dropped when the Billion was plugged in, twice now, and although the SNR has been reset, and my line sync is now 2.5mb my actual line speed is still 1.4 after 3 days. Would like to see on the router stats, as I could on my old router, what might be going on but can't find them.

Hi,

Not sure what historical information you would get from using telnet commands, but you can use the Web GUI page where you can see your core ADSL line stats (Line/Modem Sync Speeds, SNR margins, Attenuation, etc.) - "Advanced" -> "Status" -> "ADSL Status" - as the feed page into "routerstats", which you can download from "http://vwlowen.co.uk/internet/files.htm"....

Routerstats will obvioulsy only run/log when your PC is on, but it's handy to use to log ongoing changes in SNR margins, sync speed, etc., and it helps to highlight when line drops occur, etc....

Do you still have your old router to plug in to compare as you should be getting more than a 56% Throughput.

If the 2.5MB was normal with your old router then your Downstream Attenuation must be quite high - do you have the 7800N set to just G.Dmt mode as that may help.

To view all of the 7800N's stats with Telnet then from Start type telnet 192.168.1.254 (if that's your Default Gateway) > Enter then you log in as you would the router except that you use Enter instead of tabbing down to Password.

The cmd to see the stats which only cover the Uptime can be viewed with this cmd adsl info --stats and to produce the rest of the adsl cmds is adsl --help > Enter

It doesn't tolerate typos when you are logging in so you can't backspace - just re-enter admin and your password after the Login Failed message.

To view the other categories enter either ? or help at the cmd prompt and then whichever category followed by a space--help such as ifconfig --help

Thanks for the replies. I've managed to access the telnet stats but can't really see from those how many times the connection is dropping, but I do know from the router system log that it has now dropped at least 3 times in the last 6 days each time it says LCP terminated by peer. Would that be the exchange that's disconnecting me or my ISP?

I've heard of routerstats, is this a good programme to install to see the routers stats, is it easier than trying to do it through telnet?

I am quite a long way from the exchange attenuation of 63.5 downstream according to the Billion, although this was 57.3 according to my o2 router. 4100 meters according to Sam Knows. I'm on ADSL max so don't expect fast speeds, 2.5 line sync is pretty good for me but the actual line speed tends to go up and down and streaming is very erratic on the o2 router, won't work for months and then will work for weeks perfectly on line speeds of 2mb. Would just like to get the best and most stable connection I can, a BT engineer suspected that I might do better with a better router so that is why I bought the Billion.

Operation mode is showing as GDMT but all the boxes are ticked in the configurations page ADSL2, ADSL2+ etc., should they all be ticked?

Strangely the router had another connection down and up this morning and my line speed has increased to 1.9 and my SNR margin has increased to 7.2db from 5.7db. My line sync has remained the same. I thought that if the connection goes down and the SNR margin goes up then the line speed goes down. I clearly don't understand it but perhaps the line speed will increase slowly the longer the Billion is connected even if the line is going up and down!

Be grateful to anyone who can explain to me how this all works.

I don't think that my 7800N needed a training period when I dumped my ISP's HG532.

BT usually runs on G.Dmt so it would be best if you set the router to just G.Dmt with the other modes unchecked.

The increase in throughput even though your sync speed remained the same could be indicative of local interference.

This is RouterStats-Lite http://routerstats-lite.software.informer.com/ which monitors your SNRM but using a program like inSSIDer http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/ could help with the channel selection which could make for a more stable connection if your DCs are due to wireless interference.

This is now an updated version of inSSIDer and on a laptop it fits more in when you expand the window - much preferred the older version.

Do the DC's occur when either wired or wireless or just wireless.

It may be worth checking to see if the SNRM stays at a reasonable level (both wired and wireless) on an evening when it drops anyway as more people come on line.

Initially mine used to double when wired to that of wireless, so as the evening wore on I found it better to wire up as it could drop as low as 0.4dB on wireless.

My System log only shows if/when it rebooted and not multiple DC's should I not have checked it for a while had any occurred.

You could try enabling PhyR in the router to protect against noise http://www.itnews.com.au/News/223366,ii ... ments.aspx (for info) but I found that when I had it enabled and the SNRM dropped, it didn't naturally recover and I think that PhyR was maintaining whatever it settled at so I leave that off.