2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

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Eddman
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2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by Eddman »

Hi

Any update on the poor performance from the AXL8800 compared with BT Hub 5

Put back the 8800 tonight to try it and much slower than Hub 5

BT Hub 5
Sync 72mb for 25+ days
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest ... 2090059445

8800
sync 67mb
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest ... 4882554496

Spot the difference !!

My Stats with 8800

Mode VDSL2
Traffic Type PTM
Status Up
Link Power State L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB ) 6.2 5.7
Attenuation (dB) 20.7 0.0
Output Power (dBm) 14.0 7.6
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 67821 18555
Rate (Kbps) 67220 18570
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 243 239
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword) 1 1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame) 0 64
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword) 10 14
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans) 0.1156 0.4113
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol) 17580 4941
D (interleaver depth) 8 1
I (interleaver block size in bytes) 254 127
N (RS codeword size) 254 254
Delay (msec) 0 0
INP (DMT symbol) 49.00 0.00
OH Frames 0 0
OH Frame Errors 0 4
RS Words 30197160 4234802
RS Correctable Errors 390 20
RS Uncorrectable Errors 0 0
HEC Errors 0 0
OCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
Total Cells 113368437 0
Data Cells 2051401 0
Bit Errors 0 0
Total ES 0 4
Total SES 0 0


My line is good no drop outs stable as a rock.
In Master socket, so can only be down to poor performance from Billion 8800 or its firmware.
seems to have gone down hill since last firmware upgrade or should I say down grade :(
I will leave it on for a few days see it improves if not back in box and put on ebay

Shame as my last Billion knocked sots off any other router guess just down to poor design or build.

Phillip
billion_fan
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by billion_fan »

Try using the attached firmware
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underzone
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by underzone »

Do you have a beta of the next release to try instead?
Eddman
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by Eddman »

Hi
Many thanks for the new firmware
did not make any difference to sync speed in fact it was another 1MB lower.
Though uploads are quicker.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest ... 1467997957

Stats for new firmware

xDSL
Mode VDSL2
Traffic Type PTM
Status Up
Link Power State L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 6.3 6.3
Attenuation (dB) 20.8 0.0
Output Power (dBm) 14.0 7.5
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 67995 18165
Rate (Kbps) 66799 18157
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 243 239
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword) 1 1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame) 0 64
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword) 10 14
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans) 0.1163 0.4206
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol) 17470 4831
D (interleaver depth) 8 1
I (interleaver block size in bytes) 254 127
N (RS codeword size) 254 254
Delay (msec) 0 0
INP (DMT symbol) 49.00 0.00
OH Frames 0 0
OH Frame Errors 0 1
RS Words 12400656 3452689
RS Correctable Errors 12 3
RS Uncorrectable Errors 0 0
HEC Errors 0 0
OCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
Total Cells 46630827 0
Data Cells 4388555 0
Bit Errors 0 0
Total ES 0 1
Total SES 0 0
Total UAS 91 91

I will give it a couple of days to see if it settles down.

Phillip
billion_fan
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by billion_fan »

underzone wrote:Do you have a beta of the next release to try instead?
I don't have any newer firmware then 2.32e :(
Eddman
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by Eddman »

Hi Billion Man

Are they planning to fix the poor performance issue ?
Are they aware of the poor performance issue. I run DSL Stats 24/7 if they need any line stats
It should equal or better than a HH5 using the same chip set. not 10mb slower
Happy to try any beta firmware if they are coming out soon.
Other wise will go back to HH5 and get back 10mbs

Phillip
billion_fan
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by billion_fan »

Eddman wrote:Hi Billion Man

Are they planning to fix the poor performance issue ?
Are they aware of the poor performance issue. I run DSL Stats 24/7 if they need any line stats
It should equal or better than a HH5 using the same chip set. not 10mb slower
Happy to try any beta firmware if they are coming out soon.
Other wise will go back to HH5 and get back 10mbs

Phillip
Right now the issue is isolated to one or two customers, you being the only one that has lost 10mbps (most others lost a 1mb on the upload etc, so it could be other external factor effecting the performance) all others are uneffetced :D

Once I get any beta firmware, this will be the first place to post it, so you can others can test it out and see how it goes.
GaZaai
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by GaZaai »

Hi Eddman, I have almost the same stats as you and I am wondering if you have a type B homehub 5 as I am interested in buying one now to get extra sync. I actualiy have an almost identical line to you except a little lower attenuation.

xDSL
Mode VDSL2
Traffic Type PTM
Status Up
Link Power State L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis) On On
SNR Margin (dB) 6.3 6.6
Attenuation (dB) 19.9 0.0
Output Power (dBm) 12.8 7.6
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 67327 20955
Rate (Kbps) 66791 19999
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame) 243 237
M (# of Mux Data Frames in an RS codeword) 1 1
T (# of Mux Data Frames in an OH sub-frame) 0 42
R (# of redundancy bytes in the RS codeword) 10 16
S (# of data symbols over which the RS code word spans) 0.1163 0.3781
L (# of bits transmitted in each data symbol) 17468 5374
D (interleaver depth) 8 1
I (interleaver block size in bytes) 254 127
N (RS codeword size) 254 254
Delay (msec) 0 0
INP (DMT symbol) 49.00 0.00
OH Frames 0 0
OH Frame Errors 0 3
RS Words 125499440 94793
RS Correctable Errors 70 4
RS Uncorrectable Errors 0 0
HEC Errors 0 0
OCD Errors 0 0
LCD Errors 0 0
Total Cells 470622600 0
Data Cells 6438968 0
Bit Errors 0 0
Total ES 0 2
Total SES 0 0
Total UAS 0 0
Eddman
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by Eddman »

Hi

yes it is a HH5 B with broadcom chip set. same as Billion but seems to get a better speed.
Pity as spent over 100 quid on Billion and get better speed on free router from BT.
Maybe one day Billion will fix the EPP problem (end user poor performance).
Who knows

Phillip :(
GaZaai
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Re: 2.32e firmware slower than Hub 5 Fixed Yet ?

Post by GaZaai »

Eddman wrote:Hi

yes it is a HH5 B with broadcom chip set. same as Billion but seems to get a better speed.
Pity as spent over 100 quid on Billion and get better speed on free router from BT.
Maybe one day Billion will fix the EPP problem (end user poor performance).
Who knows

Phillip :(
My homehub 5 is arriving today I really hope its a type B tho. Free of charge of course as my Type A went faulty ;) After I plug it in ill post the stats here and see if there is a problem with the billion products.
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