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7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:14 pm
by Grimloid
Hi there all,
First post here

I use ADSL Max upto 8Meg, and have been happily syncing at between 4800K & 5000K Down on my 2wire router. I have just recently purchased a 7800n & connected it up today, now my sync speed is 192k Down. I am assuming that a setting is in some way responsible, but I have no idea where to start looking. I'm using the PPPoA (RFC2364, PPP over AAL5) protocol. Authentication protocol is set to auto.
I don't know what other information to include, but I am so stressed about this, please help if you can. Could it be a faulty router? It is brand new, but who knows, could still be a duff one.
Thanks so much,
Grim.
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:57 am
by billion_fan
Hi
Please post your ADSL status page so we can check your SNR downstream, and see if we can tweak your settings to improve your downstream speeds.
You can find your ADSL status page by following these steps.
1. Login to the router web configuration page on
http://192.168.1.254
2. Use the username 'admin' and password 'admin' to login
3. Click on 'Advanced'
4. Click on 'Status'
5. Click on 'ADSL status'
6. Take a screen capture of the this page and post it here (use the print screen button on your keyboard and paste in paint)
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:18 am
by Grimloid
Cheers Billion_Fan,
I will have to wait until late tonight to post the stats, because as soon as I plug the 7800n into the filter, it connects at 192Kbps, then thats my rate stuck at that for hours after that, even after plugging my 2wire back in which immediately syncs at over 4000kbps But unfortunately, still has terrible 16k speed.
I tried connecting it last night, it connected at 160Kbps I looked over the settings, all looked fine SNR was normal as far as I could see, but net was damn near unusable, as soon as I plugged my 2wire back in, sync was 4768kbps but had to wait for the dslam to allow my connection to get back up to speed wich took just over 7 hours
Grim.
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:00 pm
by Grimloid
On the box it says ADSL backwards compatible, I'm on ADSL, not ADSL2 or ADSL2+, just ADSL (DSLMAX). Is there a significant setting that would/could make the difference? I did make sure that the ADSL connection was G. DMT which my other router indicates it is set to. (Although to be honest I tried ALL the ADSL setting types independantly just to be doubly sure).
Thanks,
Grim.
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:53 pm
by billion_fan
If you are on ADSL, then G.DMT is the best setting for you.
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:06 pm
by Grimloid
ADSL Stats Bipac 7800n.jpg
Well, I did it, I put the 7800n back on, and yes, same again, back to being locked at 160kbps again

I decided since I was there anyway, I would tweak the snr a bit, so I started at 50, and went down in increments of 5, right back to -1. The best sync I got was 640Kbps. Here is a capture of the stats at 1.
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:13 pm
by billion_fan
What firmware version are on?
Very strange, never seen this before.
Are you plugged up directly to the main telephone socket? or are you using a extension?
Also who is your ISP?
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:52 pm
by Grimloid
I'm with
http://www.ruralinternet.co.uk/,
Connected directly to master socket through filter, even changed the filter to eliminate that.
I first was using 7800nv6_1.06f.dc1 firmware, today I upgraded it to 7800nv6_1.06g just in case that was an issue, but there was no difference in either.
Now my 2wire is plugged back in, these are the stats from it, although I am still stuck with download speed of 15-16k and very slow loading web pages, until a few hours have passed (hopefully)
These stats are what I get as standard, no tweaks, not a superduper router, but one of the best for long lines (as is the 7800n I thought)
Modem Type: Built in modem - ADSL
DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)
Current DSL Connection:
Down Up
Rate: 4736 kbs 448 kbs
Max Rate: 4712 kbs 856 kbs
Noise Margin: 15.0 dB 18.0 dB
Attenuation: 46.8 dB 25.5 dB
Output Power: 19.8 dBm 12.2 dBm
Protocol: G.DMT Annex A
Channel: Fast
DSLAM Vendor Information Country: {46336} Vendor: {TSTC} Specific: {0 }
ATM PVC: 0/38
ATM Circuit Identifier: VPI:0 VCI:38
ATM Encapsulation: Routed VC-Mux
ATM PVC Search: Enable
Connection Type: PPPoA
Rate Cap: 4712 kbs
Attenuation @ 300kHz: 46.8 dB
Uncanceled Echo: -19.8 dB Ok
VCXO Frequency Offset: -10.6 ppm Ok
Final Receive Gain: 26.3 dB Ok
Excessive Impulse Noise: 0 Ok
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:05 pm
by tinytim
The significant difference between the two is the downstream attenuation.
With the 2wire it's 46.8dB , but with the Billion it's 63.5dB. That'll go a long way to explain the speed difference I'd guess.
What's the cause , well I've no idea.
Re: 7800n Serious sync speed problem
Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:18 pm
by Grimloid
I'm only 2.66 km from the exchange, does it seem likely that it's faulty hardware? It's a brand spanking new 7800n, from play.com.